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Questions for Cypress

Postby ericb on Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:45 pm

I thought it might be fun to come up with a list of 5 questions for Cypress. Once we get a list in this thread I'll submit them to Cypress to see if we can get answers to some of our burning PSoC3/5 questions :)

I'll start off the discussion with a few questions from past discussions here.

Q: Will the current generation of PSoC part numbers be "not recommended for new designs" with the launch of PSoC3 and PSoC5?

Q: The speculation has been that PSoC3 is based on an 8051 core, is this true and does this mean that the M8C has been dropped?

Q: In the January earnings call PSoC5 was described as a 32-bit architecture, what processor core will be used?

Q: When can we get samples of PSoC5?

Q: What packages will be available?


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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby rqn on Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:54 pm

PSoC 3 is based on an 8051 core.
PSoC 5 is based on the Cortex-M3
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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby DavidCary on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:25 pm

5 questions for Cypress:

Q: Will PSoC5 accept code generated by the standard gcc compiler?

Q: Will PSoC5 have the MPU (memory protection unit?)? Will it be able to run uClinux or perhaps full Linux?

Q: Will there be an ARM instruction set version of something like the PowerPSoC ?

Q: Will you make a PowerPSoC that can drive a H bridge?

Q: Will any version of the PSoC3 or PSoC5 or PowerPSoC be available in a DIP package?
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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby toalan2001 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:19 pm

Bump,

I am also interested answers to Davids questions.

I would also like to add another question:

-Will there be an ethernet controller onboard, I am not sure if that is a standard feature of the M3 core.
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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby Archimedes on Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:58 pm

I also had some questions here
1) Will the 12 bit DAC which is part of the SAR ADC be available for use by the user.
2) what is the speed of this DAC if its available.
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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby gnuarm on Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:33 pm

toalan2001 wrote:Bump,

I am also interested answers to Davids questions.

I would also like to add another question:

-Will there be an ethernet controller onboard, I am not sure if that is a standard feature of the M3 core.


I don't know if Cypress will provide a part with an Ethernet MAC. But I know this is a complex peripheral and is not a standard part of a CM3 CPU core or any other CPU core.

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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby bobby on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:45 am

Sorry for my delayed reply. I had tracked down the PowerPSoC answers prior to the holiday break, but I forgot to post, and this totally slipped my mind when I got back. Obviously some of these are dated, as they were asked pre-public launch of PSoC 3 and PSoC 5. Here you guys go:

Q: Will the current generation of PSoC part numbers be "not recommended for new designs" with the launch of PSoC3 and PSoC5?
A: No, we have no plans to discontinue or "no longer recommend" PSoC 1 devices, in fact we just recently released some new ones. Our belief is that PSoC 3 functionality picks up where PSoC 1 left off, and that the devices really don't overlap.

Q: The speculation has been that PSoC3 is based on an 8051 core, is this true and does this mean that the M8C has been dropped?
A: PSoC 3 architecture is indeed 8051 based. Our PSoC 1 architecture is still based on the M8C.

Q: In the January earnings call PSoC5 was described as a 32-bit architecture, what processor core will be used?
A: PSoC 5 has an ARM Cortex-M3 (which I doubt is news to anyone now).

Q: When can we get samples of PSoC5?
A: We are sampling PSoC 5 to select customers today, and our broad-based sampling will begin in Q2 2010.

Q: What packages will be available?
A: 100-pin TQFP, 68-QFN, 48-SSOP (and 48-QFN for PSoC 3).

Q: Will PSoC5 accept code generated by the standard gcc compiler?
A: PSoC Creator, the development environment for PSoC 5, ships with an installation of the GCC compiler and associated tools. The operation of PSoC 5 with this version of the GCC toolflow is the supported flow for use of PSoC 5 with GCC.

Q: Will PSoC5 have the MPU (memory protection unit?)? Will it be able to run uClinux or perhaps full Linux?
A: The Memory Protection Unit (MPU) is an optional feature of the Cortex-M3 architecture. PSoC 5 does not include the MPU option. Future devices in the PSoC 5 family may add support for the MPU. An MPU is not a feature required for uClinux. The main issue with running uClinux on PSoC 5 is the system memory requirements. The largest PSoC 5 device has 256 KB of Flash. A typical program built for uClinux on an ARM architecture exceeds 256 KB and full Linux applications will be much to large. A better open source operating system choice for PSoC 5 is FreeRTOS. There are also several commercial RTOS products that are a great fit for the Cortex-M3 architecture such as Micrium's uC/OS-III or Segger's embOS.

Q: Will there be an ARM instruction set version of something like the PowerPSoC ?
A: This functionality is currently on our roadmap.

Q: Will you make a PowerPSoC that can drive a H bridge?
A: This functionality is currently on our roadmap.

Q: Will any version of the PSoC3 or PSoC5 or PowerPSoC be available in a DIP package?
A: There are no plans to introduce a DIP package at this time, however we are constantly evaluating the requests of our customers, and if we see enough activity for a DIP package, this is something that could happen.

Q: Will there be an ethernet controller onboard, I am not sure if that is a standard feature of the M3 core?
A: There is not an ethernet controller on board. We will be partnering with some venders to offer a solution, and we are looking into adding ethernet in a future PSoC 5 device.

Q: Will the 12 bit DAC which is part of the SAR ADC be available for use by the user.
A: We do not offer a component that gives the user access to this internal DAC.

Q: what is the speed of this DAC if its available.
A: Not available, however if you need a DAC with higher than 8-bit resolution, there are ways to accomplish this with the 8-bit DAC and UDBs.

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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby jmg on Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:21 am

A couple of extension questions

bobby wrote:Q: When can we get samples of PSoC5?
A: We are sampling PSoC 5 to select customers today, and our broad-based sampling will begin in Q2 2010.


Q:When will First Touch Eval kits be available on PSoC5 ?.

Q:When is production release scheduled for PSoC3, PSoC5 ?

Q: What packages will be available?
A: 100-pin TQFP, 68-QFN, 48-SSOP (and 48-QFN for PSoC 3).


Q: where like-packages exist, are they all pin-compatible, PSoC3, PSoC5 ?
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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby nan358 on Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:19 pm

jmg wrote:
Q: What packages will be available?
A: 100-pin TQFP, 68-QFN, 48-SSOP (and 48-QFN for PSoC 3).


Q: where like-packages exist, are they all pin-compatible, PSoC3, PSoC5 ?

As per their datasheets, PSoC5 pinouts are downward compatible with PSoC3.

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Re: Questions for Cypress

Postby bobby on Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:52 pm

Q:When will First Touch Eval kits be available on PSoC5 ?
A: PSoC 5 FirstTouch Starter Kits and PSoC 5 processor modules will be available when broad sampling of PSoC 5 begins in Q2 2010.

Q:When is production release scheduled for PSoC3, PSoC5 ?
A: PSoC 3 production is scheduled for early Q2 2010, PSoC 5 production is scheduled for Q4 2010.

Q: where like-packages exist, are they all pin-compatible, PSoC3, PSoC5 ?
A: Yes. As Nobu mentioned, PSoC 3 and PSoC 5 are pin-for-pin compatible in like packages.

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